good video thanks

The ISU-fying of myths & legends in AC games is a low blow. The Excalibur in the game looks so underwhelming :( Also Can you recommend some books for 877 CE English History?

For me the most egregious thing is the presence of Greek statues in Asgard

You can tell that Ubisoft just watched a few episodes of “Vikings” and thought “Hm I guess this is what Vikings are like. Time to make a game boys!”

uh but in the game there so many Christians Vikings, its not set on the first Vikings in England, even Halfdan/Ubba/ and Ivarr are old like 40 or 50 years old

Forgot the fact that they made 50% of the warriors/soldiers/leaders women. No evidence of such a thing exists.

I didn't even realise those creepy guys in the woods were meant to be celts. They look nothing like them! If they were true celts they would be naked, obviously

Assassins Creed is for the uneducated woke crowd, simple as that, theres little historically accurate about it, there never has been

If it wasn't for vinland saga I probably wouldn't feel as annoyed with this need of overexaggeration

How could they get odyssey so accurate but valhalla so wrong ;A;

Your uneducated about 9th century England you shouldn't of even made this video

Knew this setting would be a crapshot - while a lack of historical sources can actually be beneficial for a film (see - Free State of Jones), an expansive and detailed game like the modern AC titles would end up with too much cascading speculation and guess work and end up somewhere in Skyrimsville. Can’t believe we got a bloomin’ viking AC before one set in feudal Japan. THEY LITERALLY HAD ORDERS OF ASSASSINS! NINJAS! GUN MONKS! It’s an easy lay-up, Ubisoft, even you could do it.

I hope that in the Ireland dlc they have most of the land being Christian but the druid enemies you face are like the last of the celtic pagan bois

1:03 I like how it’s set in England I mean I’m from Newcastle which is really near Northumbria so even to have Hadrian’s wall in a video game is cool but they were always going to do a game styled like origins and odyssey with a huge map covering Europe plus I also think it covers a lot of medieval England as well and there’s not been a game like that before

My biggest gripe? A respectful and non-outlandish Assassin’s outfit for Eivor doesn’t exist.

Is te game worth it? I really want to play it but I don't know if it's any good

At least half the viking raiders are female and we got a black viking too, so at least that is historically accurate. Disappointing that we didn't get any transgender, Asian Saxons though, that would have helped make up for some of the other inaccuracies regarding clothing.

I remember when they at least pretended to care about historical accuracy.

Ac should never have left the crusades.

7:25 the Norse did a 4 month siege dumbarton rock and won. but agreed the game is full of problems with historical representation.

I love how you used oddysey music here

Eivor isn't an assassin. She openly denies having any interest at multiple points in the story, even after receiving a direct invite from an assassin.

Well actually leather clothing was not terribly uncommon, but leather armor was a no no. Chainmail being the norm? I don’t think so, we are playing just before the middle of the Viking age, meaning their tech wasn’t as advanced as their tech in the Battle of 1066. Chainmail would’ve been amazing to see more of but we cannot imagine every Raider wearing it. It was very expensive to get a shirt and I believe hearing that it might’ve been reserved for royalty, but I’m not 100 percent sure about that. I do know that the shirts were very expensive and I highly doubt every raider wore it when they went on a Viking.

2:40 Asgard was all Eivor's hallucinations of how she interpreted her "ancestors" memory, so thats why it has Roman and Christian influences too because those are things she comes across while exploring England

Blue: Talks about Assassin's Creed Valhalla Also Blue: Uses Assassin's Creed Odyssey soundtrack as background theme

sigh....... its a game...

To be fair all the "castles" and forts are at least all ruined Roman forts. The only Saxon forts that aren't roman ruins are just earthwork and palisade defenses which is realistic for the time.

Terrible game. Played 2 hours and put god of war on.

I do like the Witcher

Duel wielding is actually grounded in viking history though... Usually axe and sword, axe and axe, or axe and shield. =\ At least according to another youtube content creator who focuses on Scandinavian history/culture. Also "An Icelandic Saga" does not equal "THE Sagas".

Imagine being so brainwashed that you think right wing groups have anything to do with hate. I guess loving and protecting your own and being connected with nature if you are aryan is "hate" now.

Good one Debby downer

Another thing that will piss just about anyone who knows anything about norse mythology off is they basically combined fraya/fraja with frigg/frigga fraya is not odin's wife people its frigg

What am I missing with vikings and modern racist hate groups? I'm so lost

The landscapes are pretty.

But didnt vikings do sieges ? Vikings led by Ivar ( Imar ) and Olaf the white laid siege to Alt Clut for 3-6 months before taking it. Which was a ridiculously defensible fort

Don’t forget in the game you go to Vineland 200 years earlier than the rest of the Vikings did

TL;DR - i have a bunch of ideas for the future of AC. So me and and dad both play the AC series, he's a late addition I've been playing since the start. He loved origins the most....but i preferred odyssey. And my favorites, aside from the original and the ezio trilogy, were probably 3 and black flag. Wasnt a big fan of rogue/unity/origins/and we do not speak of chronicles. So were talking about AC games we wanna see, we landed on a few we really want to see. Along side ceaser on his rise to power like in gaul and roman civil wars, through the campaigns of Alexander maybe joining one of the uprisings in bactria after realing hes a templar in the end (sensitive since then bastria is modern Afghanistan), during the conquistador era of mexico-south america...call it a wide central America (like a mix of the last couple game styles with a black flagish vibe in central america), or like the colional days throughout africa (imo specifically the zulu nation-boer wars timeframe in SA) although there are many time frame and location specific example that could work, similarly colonial age inda or opium war era china, and definitely samurai/ninja age japan and/or China during the rise of the (i forget the word...but basically the precursors to ninjas) i feel like that may be the most perfect setting in history for the the concept of an AC game..maybe not the best game, but quite possibly the most perfect setting. Ninja assassins...i mean c'mon, nuff said..mic drop. Hell, even a return to the original with some good ol crusades (possibly from a different pov than altiair...maybe a splinter faction of the assassins within the crusades...maybe the knights hospitaller or...the other ones 🤔 are a rival of the templars or something) Theres so much more i want to see from this series, especially as tech advances and theyre able to do more with a game than weve seen thus far.

Vinland Saga is less stereotypical towards Celts than AC, which is kinda funny.

Viking berserkers used two axes normally

Head canon: the church in Asgard is an embassy.

You should do a late realism review of AC 4 Black Flag!

I'd like to see Blue's take on the Last Kingdom and Viking series.

Some of these inaccuracies are likely for the same reason the monk in Dr. Strange was not Tibetan.

Viking is basically Vietcong of the 9th century 🤣

Whilst the individual characters for the Futhark runes may be right. They went for the old stereotype of ‘they were only used for magic’ which Skyrim and the like introduced. Many runes were used in very mundane circumstances, especially when it comes to rune stones following a basic ‘this stone was out of by X in commemoration of Y’

I would have loved it if it was possible to go to Muslim Iberia in the game. It makes sense historically for the vikings to go there, and it would have given us some of those classic urban environments that the older games had.

I guess that the usual degree of historical accuracy was what we sacrificed to have a game back on track with the lore...what a shame.

Zero Punctation: The focus on the Viking's authentic culture and diversity ruins the Barbaric Fantasy. Blue: The focus on the Barbaric Fantasy ruins the Viking's authentic culture and diversity. Me: Oh. So nobody's happy. Thanks, Ubisoft.

Fuck yeah, been wanting this video for a while.

Still just want to be an assassin tho. Don’t give a toss about vikings.

But, I mean, a Viking with a hidden blade is cool...

I think that the 1060s and 1070s would be a much better time period for Valhalla. The raven clan could be one of the last pagan settlements in the area, trying to hold out against the Saxons, Kelts, Normans, and other vikings. They could actually make the game more historically accurate then, because it would be a timepoint where you could have both viking aspects like Longships and longhouse while still having Norman aspects like mounted knights and large stone fortresses.

Fire arrows. Why do I hear Shad screaming from here?

Thank you! Why are there ruined castles and ruins that wouldn't be in Rome itself.

Dont care, game fun

this was overly sarcastic

Origins is the most historically accurate of the Layla Hassan Arc AC games while Odyssey is kinda in-between and Valhalla is really stretching it.

7:49 Let's see; Battle of Hingston Down - 838 AD. Battle of Aclea - 851 AD.Battle of Ashdown - 871 AD.Battle of Norditi - 874 AD.Battle of Edington - 878 AD.Battle of Thimeon - 880 AD. Siege of Asselt - 882 AD.Battle of Leuven (891)...

Things that stuck out to me: - The roman ruins are colossal in this game, but Roman Britain was a fringe province that was never as wealthy as the core empire in the Mediterranean. - They are celebrating Samhain in England when its an Irish and Scottish tradition (seems like a missed opportunity to include it in the Ireland dlc). - Hadrian's Wall is treated like a border with the Picts when Northumbria actually extended pretty far into Scotland. - Northern Britain does not get snow like that.

I hate the Asgard stuff and all the roman ruins I know they want to add some connection to Odessy or something but they don’t feel normal

Actually there are a couple sources from that time describing major tattoo coverage. The Arab source you mentioned described tattoos from "throat to fingernails." So why do you assert that the tattoos are sensationalized? And racist? Give me a break. Nor did Vikings always lose in "fair fights." Vikings fought each other as often as not, which is as fair as it gets. They won major pitched battles on the field. And they captured Paris--you know that! And here you are saying they don't do siege warfare.

What if its actually a timeshift thing, since most characters of the first ac were pretty white notably canadian, this is kinda the most consequential and since this exists in a different reality this whole mushing of different styles and very different people having small changes to overall plot, it stands to reason that ubisoft ubisoft is just backtracking.

Following the raids down the Volga and seeing Constantinople would've made more sense for the type of forts and combat they wanted from AC Valhalla.

I find it hilarious that they ripped the saxon square shields directly of The Last Kingdom. Because square saxon shields didnt exist the last kingdom invented them to distinguish Saxons from Danes because they used the same gear

I've been playing all of the AC games since the start. I've never really took any of it as accurate facts in the same way I don't take any Hollywood movie as fact, even if they claim it to be. I'm Scandinavian, so I do know my Viking history and groan at some of the depictions in this game. Not just the vikings, celts, and historical buildings, but all other stuff like Polar bears in the southern part of Norway?

As an Englishman it’s kinda annoying we’re never shown in a good light and this period just shown as meat bags for Scandinavians to chop up , where’s my Anglo Saxon DLC like every folk love about the vikings the English tribes did earlier lol shit we even come from the same bloody place

This is where I come for my Crusader Kings 3 lore

I hope Ubisoft never and I mean NEVER touches Slavic culture or any other culture

I really hope they update the graphics engine next game, characters just don’t look good lol

To be fair about "doing the celts dirty", there's actually a ridiculous amount about the celts that we don't know anything about--they're worse than the Danes for that matter. The Catholics (and the romans) kind of erased their presence off the face of the earth.

I mean the "good guy" is also a Viking, as in the murderous raiders that pillaged Europe for a couple centuries and were only in Britain to "make a new home" by invading them and killing anyone in the way

The armor, clothes, hairstyles and weapons of almost everyone were awful. You couldn't even have a mail shirt with a normal spectacle helmet, come on.

If a game was 100% historically accurate would that make it boring?

The notion that the hyper stylized vikings look like modern white surpremacist hate groups is simply the wrong way to look at it. - Modern white surpremacist groups have taken icons from pre-existing cultures (That usually isn't their own, like the Swastika and many Celtic/Scandinavian symbols) and used them. I agree that the vikings in Valhalla are over stylized but that does not make the symbols we see white surpremacist signs. Do not give the inhuman bigots the satisfaction of stealing my culture, please.

This game sometimes makes me wonder what if they did the opposite like the story was. If you were an Angelo Saxon or(my Irish side is crying Celtic) assassin who has to stop the templars from using the Vikings to take over England and Ireland and we’ll rest of the Europe

Regarding the Great Heathen Army, there were seiges done by the Vikings. At first it did not, but this is after the initial of the Great Heathen Army. The protagonist would be wearing textiles, later yes he would wearing chainmail under leather padding. Dual Weilding was a tactic of Berserkers. I love this video, and yes the modern day racist groups took inspiration from the Northsmen. Or the Norse

Very funny rant.

Wait what? Alot of tattoos or the type of tattoos look like modern racist group? What? That makes almost no sense. That is the main point you made that kinda made me mad. Other than that I disagree. I have Nordic blood with multiple Jarls in it and I think this is great. It's over the top because its supposed to be. AC4 was way over the top yet it's the best imo. I get it's not historically accurate but it's an AC game that breaks historically lore in all games and it's by Ubisoft. Don't expect it to be too accurate. Alot of this is pretty nit picky but I see where you come from in some points. The racist group thing tho is still really wack I don't get the connection.

It is clear that AC Valhalla got inspiration from the TV show Vikings.

Go back and do Black Flag!

Assassins creed stopped being great historical right odyssey was made.

Timeline and historical inaccuracy is the least of this games problems it has to be the worst polished game ever released

The diss to the celts! So much this. The actual Britons got shafted. Evil cultists. Especially after the developers totally ripped off the matching runic symbols from “hell blade”.

Bro its assassins creed its not meant to be historically accurate

"The celts are just a bunch of stereotypes mashed together." Oh, yeah? Where are the potatoes, then?

Oh dear. You usually carry the ball, but with this one you made a few mistakes. There are finds of the daneaxe since the 9th century and at the end of the viking age it was so entrenched in English culture that it was used by Harald Godwinsson and his English forces. The stave churches might actually have been pagan temples repurposed into Christian churches. And in fair fights the vikings usually won, it was mostly when they where outnumbered or caught of guard that they lost, for instance stamford bridge or the battles in the varangian guard. There are a few other small errors but not that much. -ChrisK

Those "churches" are Hofs, right? While they might look too complex for the time and place I don't see the problem of basing Hof achitecture on stave-churches as they are the closest architecturally we have much surviving info on. And while we don't know for sure what their historical relationships were hofs are our best bet at where stave-church architecture came from.

So I gotta ask, does this mean Vinland Saga an a time is technically more historically accurate than this game?

This video is the reason I'm not buying Valhalla - it's piss me off too much. On another note, am I the only one who wants Blue to go into the previous games and dissect them too?

While the world being historically inaccurate is new, the weapons and armor have been bad since Odyssey. The main offender being the vambraces, that the Greeks never had, and yet you said nothing about that in your Odyssey review. Sorry for bad english.

Grounded fantasy? The same is true for every game in the series

Have to nitpick but, archeological evidence is really none conclusive with the whole "female warriors" things because most findings have been graves of female skeletons with weapons, which sound like a close case until you think "wait a minute, couldn't someone just be buried with weapons?" and thats the big deal, the few evidences show swords which were more of a status symbol for the culture and lack of battle injuries, which mean plenty of bodies didn't belong to "warriors" (warriors as the social status of someone prepared for war from childhood) but to high status women who may be related to the warrior culture. I don't want to say that female fighters didn't happen, or that these graves have 0 female warriors, but rather than people have been jumping on conclusions since it was reported on the news years ago and that this is still a debated topic because for archeology a warrior is not just someone who go to wars but it holds a social meaning behind that we are careful to jump to (and actually in many cases we prefer to not talk about, for both men and womens, as it place our own bias of what a warrior is).

AC valhalla is like 99% fantasy fanfiction

danes were much more important than what they are in the game

It's a fantasy game based on a historical setting. It's over the top and the most 'interesting' things from those few centuries are mashed together to make a fun fantasy game. So it basically asks the question 'what if every myth and legend about this setting was true?' and that's a really fun idea in my opinion. It isn't meant to be realistic, but it's grounded in actual historical events so stuff that isn't important to the gameplay I'd usually depicted pretty accurately and that's the perfect balance if you ask me.

Also This gem: Raiding and pillaging are core part of the gameplay where you and your buddies invade innocent monasteries kill all their guards and steal all their possesions BUT....you get desynchronized for killing "civilians" LMAO

I love this game because I love fantasy Viking shit even when fake/non historical And I love assassins creed as a game series

*Shad has entered the chat*

Wish you touched on it’s take of Vinland. I thought it was a cool idea, completely off in timeline but it also just wasn’t flushed out at all.